spicedb
- c
chance
11/17/2021, 8:40 PMit was mostly a curiosity - j
Jake
11/17/2021, 8:41 PMit's possible that the reinterpretation could be filled in via a more complex graph query - c
chance
11/17/2021, 8:42 PMi was bit nervous about complex graph queries in a relationaldb - c
chance
11/17/2021, 8:42 PMbut doesn't sound like thats a concern - c
chance
11/17/2021, 8:43 PMgah, cant type today - c
chance
11/17/2021, 8:43 PMi'm no where near being a position to worry about this but again, just curious. do you anticipate implementing zookies? - u
user
11/17/2021, 8:44 PM@User our usage of a relational db is similar to how relational dbs use key value stores like RocksDB or LevelDB under the hood to store tables. - j
Jake
11/17/2021, 8:45 PM@chance we already have an implementation of zookies - j
Jake
11/17/2021, 8:45 PMwe call them zedtokens - c
chance
11/17/2021, 8:45 PMthat's awesome - u
user
11/17/2021, 8:46 PMwe actually do one better and allow for configurable consistency on each API call: https://docs.authzed.com/reference/api-consistency - c
chance
11/17/2021, 8:46 PMi think the video just answered my last question; I'm assuming authzed is running on gcp - c
chance
11/17/2021, 8:47 PMit isn't often that you come across software that is truly impressive. seriously, well done folks. - j
Jake
11/17/2021, 8:47 PMwe're running on gcp right now, but expansion into azure and aws has always been the plan - j
Jake
11/17/2021, 8:48 PMand thanks for the complement! we're pretty passionate about this problem and seeing it get solved right! - v
vroldanbet
11/18/2021, 10:31 AMJust run the consistency tests with our schema and my machine goes brrrrrr 😂 - v
vroldanbet
11/18/2021, 10:31 AMBut it's green! - e
ecordell
11/18/2021, 12:46 PMdefinitely recommend the new m1max macs to solve that problem 😄 - j
Jake
11/18/2021, 1:28 PMThe consistency tests are really to find deficiencies in the implementation of SpiceDB - j
Jake
11/18/2021, 1:28 PMI just want to make sure you don't think they're doing something that they're not - j
Jake
11/18/2021, 1:28 PMthey only verify that all of the results for expand, lookup, and check are self-consistent - v
vroldanbet
11/18/2021, 1:32 PMcan you define "self-consistent"? - j
Jake
11/18/2021, 1:33 PMsure, it checks that for every resource/subject pair that appears in a lookup result, the corresponding check also passes, among other things - v
vroldanbet
11/18/2021, 1:37 PMso it's based on the assumption lookup is correct - j
Jake
11/18/2021, 1:37 PMno, that's just an example of one of the tests that it runs - j
Jake
11/18/2021, 1:37 PMi believe it iterates every resource and every subject and verifies that all checks are consistent - v
vroldanbet
11/18/2021, 1:38 PMbased on a predefined set of relationships? - v
vroldanbet
11/18/2021, 1:39 PMwould have thought it looks at the schema and tries to generate all the combination of relationships that schema would allow - j
Jake
11/18/2021, 1:40 PMmy point is that it's just more for ensuring that spicedb is implemented correctly, not that a certain set of assumptions about your schema are or remain true