related to the audit conversation is there a way to look at

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related to the audit conversation is there a way to look at two responses from say two WriteRelationships calls and determine the order in which they were applied to SpiceDB

yetitwo · Answer

short of reverse engineering the ZedToken to understand the revision number

Joey · Answer

nope and reverse engineering the ZedToken to do so will inevitably break as we reserve the right to change that format whenever we like

Joey · Answer

you could on the other hand use a Watch

yetitwo · Answer

yeah this is for putting together a proposal for why Watch will eventually be the way to go

yetitwo · Answer

is there any way to understand from the Watch API when a particular change was applied to SpiceDB specifically a timestamp of a particular change being applied

yetitwo · Answer

or is some time window around when a stream response is received the best we currently get

Joey · Answer

nothing concrete

Joey · Answer

only an ordering

yetitwo · Answer

additionally looking at `changes through` does that imply that you ll receive a watch event for every revision bump or is it only a guarantee that you ll have received all of the events up to that revision i e batching is possible

Joey · Answer

you ll get a watch event for basically every transaction committed but that s also an impl detail

Joey · Answer

may be different based on the datastore type

yetitwo · Answer

okay so having received a watch event i ll know that that change is live by that time but i won t know how far in the past it was applied

yetitwo · Answer

and that makes sense